Demoman versus Soldier: The war has begun

Brian Ambrozy (primesuspect) The amazing dual class update from Team Fortress 2 brings Demoman and Soldier updates to the table, but with an unusual twist: Players will decide who gets a secret weapon by playing their favorite class this week.

December 10, 2009 10:23 PM ET in News, ,

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In the great competition between Demomen and Soldiers, sides are inevitably picked.

Valve has done it again, and made some spectacularly unforeseen change to the venerable Team Fortress 2 that has longtime players in a frenzy.

While the coming dual class update is “standard” in most respects, Valve have blindsided us with the announcement that in addition to the standard “three new weapons” for each class, there is a fourth weapon available—but there’s a catch.

Either the Soldier or the Demoman will get the weapon—but not both. A contest will decide who gets a fourth weapon; for the next week, any player who wants the Demoman to get the weapon needs to log in and kill soldiers, and vice versa.

The competition is being tracked at the War page at the Team Fortress blog.

If you’re looking for a server, there’s always Icrontic’s TF2 server…

Soldier-vs-Demo

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59 Comments

  1. 11 Dec '09, 8:19 am ardichoke

    But... but... but... I like both of them. Who should I kill? ;_;

  2. 11 Dec '09, 8:20 am lunchb0x

    Maggot!

  3. 11 Dec '09, 8:23 am pragtastic

    Demo will win this war.

  4. 11 Dec '09, 8:27 am primesuspect

    Demo will win

  5. 11 Dec '09, 10:57 am Canti

    Demomen MUST win this war! Souljas will fall by the millions befar the might of the whisky boughtul! Nothing can shtop us! Ar cause is joost, ar vichtary imminent! Lay down yer rawket lawnchairs now and we may yet spare ye the indignity of screaman, "KA-BOOOOM!" as ye cower in fear. Ta those of ye who oppose know that yer time is shart and yer struggle futile. Join us while ye still can er face the fury of ar resolve!

  6. 11 Dec '09, 10:57 am bestav

    I want soldier to win but Demomen are more overpowered :/

  7. 11 Dec '09, 11:19 am Crazy Joe

    So who's up for some all demo team vs. all soldier team battle on the IC server tonight?

  8. 11 Dec '09, 3:34 pm lol

    LoL soldier will win this war.. ask people ingame and i already got 200 points

  9. 11 Dec '09, 3:39 pm Serp

    26 kills for the demos so far w00t!

  10. 11 Dec '09, 3:43 pm Koreish

    Is there another site keeping track because the update pages don't have that posted.

  11. 11 Dec '09, 3:49 pm Serp

    Been trolling the official TF2 forums and haven't seen another site yet. Those 26 kills were what I got this morning.

  12. 11 Dec '09, 4:23 pm QCH

    You are all maggots and bleeders...

  13. 11 Dec '09, 5:26 pm mertesn
    Quoting Crazy Joe

    So who's up for some all demo team vs. all soldier team battle on the IC server tonight?

    An excellent suggestion, sir.

  14. 11 Dec '09, 5:44 pm Vengeance

    of course the demo will win :P gotta love the black scottish cyclops

  15. 11 Dec '09, 5:45 pm Winfrey

    It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.

  16. 11 Dec '09, 6:04 pm _k_

    It was interesting playing last night. It seemed like ampersand was having a hard time because of the massive spam that is happening every where. Thank goodness it is only for a few days because its making regular game play suck a little.

  17. 11 Dec '09, 6:10 pm Snarkasm

    Goddamn I hope demo wins. Do me proud, darkies! I wish I could help...

  18. 11 Dec '09, 6:21 pm rolleggroll
    Quoting Winfrey

    It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.

    Already on it.

  19. 11 Dec '09, 8:18 pm Koreish
    Quoting Winfrey

    It seems to me that the best way to help your class win is to switch to medic and only heal that class.

    Consider it done.

  20. 11 Dec '09, 10:19 pm _k_

    demo is ahead by just under 100,000

  21. 12 Dec '09, 1:53 am mas0n

    Soldiers FTW. I'll be doing my part later this evening.

  22. 12 Dec '09, 3:16 am _k_

    soldier is going to spank demo. it would be hilarious if the soldier would get a nade launcher.

  23. 12 Dec '09, 7:24 am Koreish
    Quoting _k_

    demo is ahead by just under 100,000

    How is demo ahead? Wouldn't they be behind by just 100,000? Remember the more dead the worse for the team.

  24. 12 Dec '09, 11:44 am _k_

    ya their death count is ahead, they have been killed more. Think more curvy you will get it.

  25. 12 Dec '09, 6:34 pm Rexxar

    326 Demo have died by my hand. For the Soldiers!

  26. 13 Dec '09, 7:22 am Winfrey

    Demoman is getting stomped! 200k lead already! Fellow soldiers, we shall prevail!

  27. 13 Dec '09, 8:27 am NiGHTS

    New update info: Engy Update hints: Crafting, Saxton Hale Comic

    New Weapon Hints?
    Via Reddit Comments: The sword (claymore) a new melee for the scottish demoman. The bugle a for the soldier, (sounds like a rocket jump for teammates). And the pickaxe would be a new weapon for the engineer if the rumors of a secret engie update are true, (will 'science' end the war?')

  28. 13 Dec '09, 8:43 am cola

    I totally called the claymore, and I bet he yells "FREEDOM!!!" as he swings it.

  29. 13 Dec '09, 8:47 am Winfrey

    A Claymore would be badass

  30. 13 Dec '09, 3:40 pm bob

    go demo demo
    go demo demo
    that demo rocks the best make him kill at any quest
    second to none just kill a soldier and your done
    thats crazy girl i swear i wonder what's in there
    its just a new gun what a better gun why
    because your killing you killing i command you to go killing
    when i say lets kill you say soldiers
    lets kill
    soldiers
    GO DEMO

  31. 15 Dec '09, 7:20 am Koreish

    And the Demoman gets a kickass melee pairing.

    http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanu...dex.htm#item_1

  32. 15 Dec '09, 5:02 pm BobbyDigi

    For the Soldiers!

    As of last night there are 225,300 more dead Demos then Soldiers. Keep up the good work Boys!

    -Bobby

  33. 15 Dec '09, 6:24 pm cola

    Dude, I'm gonna WRECK all of you with the sweet mele combo.

  34. 15 Dec '09, 11:56 pm BobbyDigi
    Quoting cola

    Dude, I'm gonna WRECK all of you with the sweet mele combo.

    No you won't.

    -Bobby

  35. 16 Dec '09, 12:39 am cola
    Quoting Bobby1211

    No you won't.

    -Bobby

    FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN OR DIE

  36. 16 Dec '09, 12:55 am BobbyDigi

    I break your bottle... the intoxicating substance inside? I DRINK IT UP!!!!

    -Bobby

  37. 16 Dec '09, 5:28 am Koreish

    For the Soldiers who always dreamed of being a Sniper when growing up.

    http://www.teamfortress.com/soldieru...dex.htm#item_1

  38. 16 Dec '09, 5:32 am cola

    I'll decapitate them before they get the chance to rocketsnipe me.

  39. 16 Dec '09, 5:36 am Buddy J

    http://whiskerino.org/2009/beards/patrick/14099/

    It has spread to Whiskerino.

  40. 16 Dec '09, 5:48 am cola

    Just got an idea, what if at the end of the week when the new weapon is revealed, the two classes make amends, and then decide to share the weapon?

  41. 16 Dec '09, 6:21 am shwaip

    you have killed too many of my brethren, there is no going back.

  42. 16 Dec '09, 2:35 pm Annes
    Quoting Buddy J

    http://whiskerino.org/2009/beards/patrick/14099/

    It has spread to Whiskerino.

    That piece of art is fucking pro. If it were on Etsy, I would buy it. Even though I play the game biannually.

  43. 17 Dec '09, 3:50 am BobbyDigi

    The Propaganda contest winners have been announced/posted.

    http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3253

    -Bobby

  44. 17 Dec '09, 5:20 am pigflipper

    I am so going to rock the Direct Hit!

  45. 17 Dec '09, 3:48 pm _k_

    The demo is closing in. Rally the troops and beat these drunkish turkeys back to the zoo where they below. There is no rest for the salami because it never gets tired CHARGE.

  46. 17 Dec '09, 4:45 pm shwaip

    no one should play soldier until the update has released.

  47. 17 Dec '09, 5:07 pm pragtastic

    when does this end ?

  48. 17 Dec '09, 5:08 pm Winfrey

    I'm starting to wonder if these numbers are faked and the special weapon will be given to the engineer instead...FOR SCIENCE!

  49. 17 Dec '09, 5:15 pm Koreish

    Anyone notice the soldier's grenade achievement?

  50. 17 Dec '09, 5:24 pm shwaip
    Quoting Koreish

    Anyone notice the soldier's grenade achievement?

    from what i hear, one of your taunts is a suicide attack with a grenade from your equipment.

  51. 21 Dec '09, 7:59 pm Cliff_Forster

    I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

    Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.

  52. 21 Dec '09, 8:06 pm BobbyDigi
    Quoting Cliff_Forster

    I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

    Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.

    While this is true, with players charging around on the other team that leaves room for scouts to jump over them and capture the objective (point, intel, ect..). They are not doing their team any favors.

    I would love to get my hands on a Scottish Resistance though. Would like to craft it but I have a feeling I'll get it randomly before I get 4 other Demo items to create the needed Demo Token.

    -Bobby

  53. 21 Dec '09, 8:13 pm shwaip

    Just wait a while, people will go back to playing classes as normal.

  54. 21 Dec '09, 11:13 pm primesuspect
    Quoting Cliff_Forster

    I hate the Demo update. It destroys the strategic value of the class, which is to essentially destroy the Engineers shit.

    Now everyone just runs a muck lopping heads off.

    As someone whose top two played classes are demoman and engineer, I will take exception to your brash and bold statement, sir.

    The Demo's primary value is as a defensive class. Their ability to destroy engineer's shit is, while appreciated and valuable, not their best use except in a few key scenarios.

    As an Engineer, I find the soldier, spy, medic/heavy to be more of a pain in my texas ass than demomen.

    A demo, playing defensively, can be the key pivot to holding on to a point in a desperate pitched battle, or as a last line of defense in a flag room. Many are the times I've seen a scout, eager for glory, get blown to smithereens as his enthusiasm overshadowed his caution.

    The class update brings an entirely new strategy to Demomen, which have always found their weakest point to be up-close combat.

    I LOVE the game-changing tactics. I LOVE the fact that Valve has given us an entirely new way to look at the Cyclops.

  55. 21 Dec '09, 11:26 pm Black Hawk
    Quoting primesuspect

    As an Engineer, I find the soldier, spy, medic/heavy to be more of a pain in my texas ass than demomen.

  56. 21 Dec '09, 11:36 pm primesuspect

    :hate:

  57. 22 Dec '09, 12:12 am ardichoke

  58. 22 Dec '09, 2:29 am primesuspect

  59. 22 Dec '09, 2:30 am primesuspect

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