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An evening with Origin

An evening with Origin

An Origin experience

What follows is a chronological retelling of the glory that it is to be allowed to use EA’s Origin gaming service.

6:35PM

I sit down, giddily, to get some Battlefield 3 action in. I preloaded my game days ago, so it’s just sitting there waiting for me. I click to launch it and… Origin can’t.

“Please make sure this game is installed properly and try again.” Dutifully, I check my install files and path. All looks well, so I restart Origin. Origin complains that it cannot activate my copy of the game, and that I should make sure I’m using the same account I did when I bought the game. It helpfully tells me “You are signed in as: ”

Helpfully (I think), I offer to use the “sign in as a different user” option to revalidate my credentials. Origin rejects them after thinking carefully about it, deeming them unworthy. On a lark, I log in to Battlelog. Returning to Origin, I find that my credentials are suddenly accepted. It’s a miracle! My elation is short-lived, however,  as Battlefield 3 hangs on launch.

 

It taunts.

Why don't you try to work again instead?

Thinking cleverly, I launch my soon-to-be favorite new game directly from the Start menu, where Origin helpfully plopped a shortcut for me. It hangs for three minutes before presenting me with the same credential failure. It fails validation again.

I give up and restart the computer.

7:10PM

After a failed (but recovered!) upgrade of graphics drivers and a shiny new restart, I’m sure I can tackle the world. Restart Origin.

Restart Origin with administrator rights. Eh? Eh? Guys?

Spinny circle of doom

This is so much better than that OS X beach ball.

I stare at this for ten or fifteen minutes—it’s strangely soothing. At some point, I snap out of it. I must have done something wrong. What’s that? Battlefield 3 has a repair option? Sweet fancy Moses! Origin informs me that it will download another 11.5GB of files to replace missing or corrupted files for me. Done and done. This goes quickly enough, thanks to fast Euro internet. Sadly, it was not to last. Origin repeatedly fails to install the repair updates it downloaded. In a fit of glee, I destroy the entire Origin folder, wiping out the game, its installers, and everything it ever held dear to its cold little heart. Restart Origin.

7:40PM

With its substructures wiped from underneath it, Origin cheerfully tells me that Battlefield 3 is ready to download! Let’s do this. As it churns, I while away the minutes catching up on Ars’ three-part thriller about an old 48-hour video game contest in Queensland. (It’s quite good, by the way).

At 8:01PM, one hour and twenty-six minutes after I sat down to play, Battlefield 3 shows that it’s ready to play again. I click.

Battlefield 3 on Origin rage

And that's when I went outside.

Like old friends, Origin’s impotence and my sadness meet each other and embrace. While we wait, we chat about the weather, how the kids are doing, whether the other thinks they’ll get that job promotion they’ve been gunning for. (Frankly, I find Origin’s chances slim). Quietly, almost imperceptibly, the activation screen continues to spin. “Maybe tomorrow,” it says.

“Learn from Steam,” I say.

Comments

  1. fatcat
    fatcat shrug.

    Have not had a single issue with origin yet.

    I had many issues with steam for the first year.
  2. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS Short memories - Steam was so broken on day one it's not even funny.

    It's too bad you're having issues, as it seems many people are. For what it's worth - I haven't, so pointas for the other team. Origin has allowed me to register and play BFBC2 without issue, add my Spectat kit purchase at a later date without issue, and twice representatives have given me 20% off for issues stemming from the "can't change your Origin ID" issue (before a fix was released).

    The largest bug I've run into is the third person glitch that happens from time to time ingame, and/or the fact that EA Personas from previous generations of account management cannot be used for BF3.

    The fact that this service has EA stuck to it gave it a huge target from day one, I get that. But understand where Steam started (seriously, it was an absolutely atrocious mess that 100% broke my favorite game: Day of Defeat) and allow them to build off their issues before throwing stones.
  3. ardichoke
    ardichoke The differences between Steam and Origin:

    1) Steam was the first of it's kind. No one had attempted anything like it before so Valve didn't necessarily know what the pitfalls would be. EA should have learned from Steam's mistakes. Instead they seem to be repeating them.

    2) EA has far more resources than Valve did to get it right in the first place. They still failed to do so.

    Of course, that's just the opinion of someone who has no intention of using Origin, or buying another EA game so long as they suck at life (which will likely be forever).
  4. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS Unless they stole the entire development team, I fail to see how they would have nailed it out of the park on the first pitch. Has it left all of Origin users out in the cold? No. Has it left a majority of Origin users out in the cold? No. You can just as easily argue they did learn from Steam's mistakes and pitfalls. Otherwise, you're basically arguing you know how to develop the perfect shoe because I've worn them before and you know what works.

    I don't disagree about point two, but as anyone who knows about rolling out new projects knows, they're always underbudget, overreaching and are under high scrutiny from both management and consumers alike.

    I'm not an Origin apologist, I'm just trying to present another side of the coin. All across the greater weberspace, Steam has been held up on this pillar and can do absolutely no wrong. It's surprising to me that people are quick to pull the trigger on a few select issues that Steam has/had as well.
  5. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster I've been trying to do some things on Origin. First of all, just logging in to get the update off the EA site was hard, it kept timing out. I'm sure the servers are hammered with the release of BF3. I tried to stream a free demo, it was buggy and slow, thought my connection has been just fine for everything else. I attempted to re download Bad Company 2 and had some trouble getting it to load and authenticate properly. I'm chalking it up to their servers being overwhelmed, but I just don't know. I will not be buying BF3 until this is worked out.
  6. pigflipper
    pigflipper I had some problems this afternoon getting the game to launch and when it did launch, most times it crashed before I got into the game.

    My solution: turn off computer and do something else for a while, come back to patch and/or less demand. Worked great for me. Also do the manual PunkBuster update will help with getting kicked once you do connect.
  7. SpencerForHire
    SpencerForHire I am a little irritated at the prospect that we are on the game maker's time not our own. If I pay for a game or service, I expect said service to be working when I wish to us it, not down the road when they have found the time to allow me to play it...

    I have stopped playing 3 different games of very high quality and review simply due to the multiple failures of game devs (making the game work without some game breaking bug), repeated downtimes and more...

    This is one of the reasons I am so apprehensive to do anything related with EA's Origin.
  8. Winfrey
    Winfrey Origin's had more problems for non-USA people.
  9. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm Bingo to Winfrey.

    There's a clarification to make here, and that is: if Origin had just said "we're having activation issues" in big bold letters inside Origin when I began, I'd understand it. It's a huge launch, sure. But to be essentially mislead for an hour and a half because EA told me it was my fault - my install was bad, my password was wrong, I didn't link the game to my account properly - is the much more frustrating part. I could have stepped away and been just fine doing something else for the night. Instead, I did every manner of client-side troubleshooting I could before Origin popped up the "we're having activation issues" screen.

    I don't at all disagree that this is the same level of issue Steam had at its inception. I do think it could have been better handled. EA's been deleting threads talking about the activation issues over on their forums. Just a little more communication would have been primo.
  10. CB
    CB They should have left their games available to those who prefer Steam.

    It would be one thing if they had never been on Steam, and now EA was finally getting a download service, but they were on Steam, and they forced people who were used to EA games working well on Steam to use Origin instead, which is a dick move. It sacrifices customer ease and satisfaction for a couple extra cents per sale on titles which are already overpriced. Plenty of other game publishers have their own service, but also allow their games on Steam for their customers who like Steam, and they're not going out of business.

    It's made doubly worse that they did this while Origin is still in its buggy infancy.
  11. Garg
    Garg I personally don't want yet another branded game experience management system. EA could have just as easily made the game downloadable with in-game updates without this big Origin thing wrapped around it if they wanted to save the money that Valve would have got a cut of. But no, we have another also-ran service that at the end of the day doesn't make things any better for gamers.
  12. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx I frigging hate that we have to have yet another service to play our games. Multiple sign-ins are annoying.

    Spencer raises a great point. One of my biggest frustrations with the reliance we have on all of these services is that we cannot always control when and what we play. "Working out the bugs" is no excuse. If it's not ready by gameday, you don't deserve the money of consumers. It's crappy to everyone who dished out money for a product.

    It's the exact reason why Jimmy and I were so pissed when we dicked away 45 minutes just trying to connect to a server together through Battlelog, failing the entire time.
  13. pigflipper
    pigflipper Lynx and Snark: y'all seem to be having way more problems than most people. Besides a couple hours of no go yesterday, Origin/Battlelog/BF3 have been fairly stable for me, with a few random disconnects.

    If you don't like the way (or things) you need to play games, how about this? DO NOT PLAY THEM AND SHUT UP. simple solution.
  14. kryyst
    kryyst Why do I suddenly have the urge to bring up the PC vs Console thing?
  15. Garg
    Garg
    pigflipper wrote:
    If you don't like the way (or things) you need to play games, how about this? DO NOT PLAY THEM AND SHUT UP. simple solution.

    I totally don't buy the "if you don't like it sod off" argument. Examples:

    I don't like US politics. MOVE TO CHINA.
    I am frustrated that few new cars are sold with manual transmissions. RIDE A BIKE, GET 21 SPEEDS.
    The rent is too damn high. LIVE IN A BOX UNDER A BRIDGE.
  16. pigflipper
    pigflipper Capitalism, baby.
  17. Basil
    Basil Communism, comrade.


    ...wait, what?
  18. ardichoke
    ardichoke I think the point he was trying to allude to in the most irritating and vague way possible is that you should vote with your wallet. If you feel that Origin is unnecessary and a burden, then don't buy the game. As long as you buy the game anyway, EA has no real reason to listen to your gripes. This is exactly why I will not buy EA games anymore.
  19. CB
    CB Right, I agree with the 'do not play them' part. That's cool, that's what I'm doing, in fact, but no need to also 'shut up'. We can all feel free to gripe when we don't like the way a company treats us.
  20. ardichoke
    ardichoke Absolutely. I never threw the 'Shut Up' out there, nor do I agree with it. If my lack of repudiation implied that I condone that part of the argument, I do apologize.
  21. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS We've come a long way when managing another icon on your desktop is now burdensome.
  22. ardichoke
    ardichoke but the point is it's not just another icon. It's another service. Another password to remember. Another company with your credit card number and other personal info just waiting to be hacked. Another risk.
  23. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS Weighed against the risk of the single service, with every game you've purchased, being wiped clean and locked once one errant issue with your credit card arises.

    I don't see it as a multiplied risk, I see the same level being spread about more evenly between various accounts.
  24. fatcat
    fatcat
    I am a little irritated at the prospect that we are on the game maker's time not our own. If I pay for a game or service, I expect said service to be working when I wish to us it, not down the road when they have found the time to allow me to play it...

    I have stopped playing 3 different games of very high quality and review simply due to the multiple failures of game devs (making the game work without some game breaking bug), repeated downtimes and more...

    This is one of the reasons I am so apprehensive to do anything related with EA's Origin.

    yes, logging in to WoW and waiting 20-30 minutes for a spot on the server was fun times :p
  25. Tushon
    Tushon I sympathize with those who have experienced issues, but really: another password to remember? You really don't use auto-login on a game management system, on your own computer? Snark hit two nails: it has been a much bigger problem for non-US players, which totally sucks, and they could have handled it differently (our servers are getting pounded in all the wrong ways).

    Origin is going to have growing pains as they figure out scaling and HA, Battlelog is weird, but the whole experience (for me) has been vastly better than say, trying to play Borderlands with friends. Their in-game system (to my knowledge) remains useless. Having to third-party with Hamachi or gamespy is idiotic, as is opening 20+ ports on your firewall just to allow playing with friends.
  26. MiracleManS
    MiracleManS
    Tushon wrote:
    I sympathize with those who have experienced issues, but really: another password to remember? You really don't use auto-login on a game management system, on your own computer?

    No I don't. I haven't in a long, long time. I use a different password for every platform as well.
  27. ardichoke
    ardichoke
    No I don't. I haven't in a long, long time. I use a different password for every platform as well.

    As should everyone. Otherwise, as soon as one careless site you are subscribed to gets hacked, someone could have your password for everything. All of a sudden you find people are buying games with your CC info, your accounts get hijacked (or locked), your personal information is stolen which means you'll likely be dealing with a stolen identity (which I can attest is not fun), etc.

    As for the argument that having more than one service is "spreading the risk more evenly," that argument is laughably false. The more companies have your personal info, the greater the probability one of the companies with your info will be hacked. Yeah, sure, if you only buy games through Steam there's an extremely remote chance all your games could be locked. The odds of that happening are incredibly small (provided you're not doing something illegal). If it did, sure it would suck, but it would suck way less than having your identity stolen because you opened an account with every shady e-vendor out there so that you could buy your games from as many places as possible.
  28. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    pigflipper wrote:
    If you don't like the way (or things) you need to play games, how about this? DO NOT PLAY THEM AND SHUT UP. simple solution.

    Yes, let's conveniently ignore the fact that Origin is a mandatory non-optional requirement to play almost every current EA title much like games that obnoxiously require Steam even for retail copies.

    Origin's problems also can all be anticipated and there's no excuse for not having anticipated it. This is EA, a multi-billion dollar behemoth with nearly two decades of game publishing under their belts. This is not their first huge launch, nor is it their first foray into online systems. Simply put: EA halfassed it because they knew full well they could quite literally take a shit in players mouths, and they would eat it up. Why bother to get it even half right when people will forgive you anyway?
  29. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS
    ardichoke wrote:
    If it did, sure it would suck, but it would suck way less than having your identity stolen because you opened an account with every shady e-vendor out there so that you could buy your games from as many places as possible.

    Yes, good thing Sony is worth trusting...


    I wasn't talking identity theft, I was talking about the loss of a complete catalog. You're comparing two different things.
  30. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    ardichoke wrote:
    The differences between Steam and Origin:

    1) Steam was the first of it's kind. No one had attempted anything like it before so Valve didn't necessarily know what the pitfalls would be. EA should have learned from Steam's mistakes. Instead they seem to be repeating them.

    Actually, two points. One, you never saw the very first Steam. Which was in closed beta about a year before the official release happened, with typical 6 month closed beta cycles thereafter. Then Valve realized they could just 'fix it in a patch' and stopped bothering to beta. Even during closed beta, servers got broken frequently. Not that Valve would ever admit that their product isn't flawless and perfect, much less the Steam Fanboi Brigades.

    Two, EA has no reason to learn from Valve, because EA is bigger and has handled all of this before. And then some. Analysts have downgraded EA as a result of this fiasco (that would be: the people who advise on stocks for a living,) citing the downward trend in quality and poor execution. But I digress; this is not new stuff to EA. Some properties with online components in the tens of thousands (if not more) immediately at launch include: DAOC, NASCAR series, Warhammer Online, Spore, and The Sims series. Origin has been an ongoing disasterpiece since day one that they basically appear to be refusing to fix, because, "trolol, we don't have to, you can't go anywhere else now."
  31. pigflipper
    pigflipper Its almost too easy, not even sporting really
  32. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Last thread I got involved in like this I got called a lame, full of shit, cowardly, dick, all over a topic that was not that serious.

    Same thing here, no need to be condescending. Ardi has a valid point of view, and I'm pretty confident he knows what an analyst is.

    Origin is new, it's buggy, and EA has the resources that they could have probably done a little better. An online store for games in 2004 was pretty innovative, now, it's just common place. That does not mean it's easy to execute, but the comparison to Origin to Steam as a start up is a complete apple and orange. You can't compare them, in terms of hardware and software advancement, the Steam launch happened generations ago when doing this was actually innovative and new. There is something to be said about being a visionary and getting there with a great idea first. EA finally catches up with the market, and they are frustrating people despite having massive resources to execute this. You just can't compare it to what Valve did in 2004.
  33. primesuspect
    primesuspect Why does it always have to degenerate into "YOU'RE STUPID FOR THINKING THIS, YOU'RE WRONG", etc.
  34. mertesn
    mertesn
    Why does it always have to degenerate into "YOU'RE STUPID FOR THINKING THIS, YOU'RE WRONG", etc.

    Because there are two groups of people: Those who agree with me, and those who are wrong (and therefore stupid).
  35. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    Last thread I got involved in like this I got called a lame, full of shit, cowardly, dick, all over a topic that was not that serious.

    Same thing here, no need to be condescending. Ardi has a valid point of view, and I'm pretty confident he knows what an analyst is.

    Not being condescending. You're reading too much into it and reading it wrong. I'm agreeing with Ardi that it's complete BS. (See Ardi's #2.) My point is that as Ardi mentioned, EA is a multi-billion dollar company, but they also have been doing this for 20+ years (EA's been around since the late 80's) so should have known this from their own experience even more than Valve's.
    Origin is new, it's buggy, and EA has the resources that they could have probably done a little better. An online store for games in 2004 was pretty innovative, now, it's just common place. That does not mean it's easy to execute, but the comparison to Origin to Steam as a start up is a complete apple and orange. You can't compare them, in terms of hardware and software advancement, the Steam launch happened generations ago when doing this was actually innovative and new. There is something to be said about being a visionary and getting there with a great idea first. EA finally catches up with the market, and they are frustrating people despite having massive resources to execute this. You just can't compare it to what Valve did in 2004.

    I can't say whether or not it's Apples to Oranges, purely because I haven't personally messed with Origin that much. I have no games that require it, so I see no reason to install it. Steam is problematic enough.
    Regardless, you can absolutely compare in terms of hardware and software, because the fact is that Steam has been continuously updated and in fact, did undergo a visible near total rewrite. Many of EA's problems as reported seem to stem from a lack of code quality and testing, whereas most of Valve's early problems were actually issues with their original content distribution architecture. (So, so bad.) These days, most of Valve's problems stem from mismanagement and DRM architecture issues - botched releases, difficulty unlocking things, invalid CD keys are not an issue of downloading a game. Origin's absurd user login issues, crashes, and so on largely appear to be client-side bugs. (Not going to touch on the multiple charges issue; that is a separate system per requirements for PCI compliance.)

    So yeah, I agree there's no reason EA couldn't have gotten this right. And there's a mountain of in-house first hand experience and existing work they could have drawn on, forget Valve and Steam. My point is that it feels very much like EA's attitude on the whole thing is "why bother? We don't have to spend money to do it right, because trololol, where else are they gonna go for BF3 and ME3 and NFS?" And no amount of comparison or legitimate complaints is going to change it, because it doesn't cost them anything to hold you hostage whereas making it not a pile of crap is very expensive.
  36. -MBG--De-Sniper
    -MBG--De-Sniper
    CB wrote:
    They should have left their games available to those who prefer Steam.

    It would be one thing if they had never been on Steam, and now EA was finally getting a download service, but they were on Steam, and they forced people who were used to EA games working well on Steam to use Origin instead, which is a dick move. It sacrifices customer ease and satisfaction for a couple extra cents per sale on titles which are already overpriced. Plenty of other game publishers have their own service, but also allow their games on Steam for their customers who like Steam, and they're not going out of business.

    It's made doubly worse that they did this while Origin is still in its buggy infancy.

    Speaking of games that are overpriced Call of Duty 4 remained $30-40 yrs after it was released. While Battlefield Bad Company 2 came quickly down in price.

    If you have a problem with origin saying you can't start the game or its still having activation issues or it wont recognize your code for the game try reinstalling origin, once it is reinstalled all the games you had downloaded already will still be there. The ones that worked will probably still be working and maybe the ones that didnt will be working as well.

    Im on the screw all download services bandwagon I hate having to go through any other application just to play my game that is already downloaded and on my computer. (Sure there are some advantages, but everything they do with Battlelog and Origin could have been incorporated directly into the game) As for Battlelog and Origin, having to go through both of those to play BF3 is just silly and Battlelog being in my web browser which I tend to have full of around 20 tabs at a time makes BF3 laggy and I dont like having to close all my tabs and only have Battlelog open to make my game not laggy, because then I have to come back and go through the whole process of finding all the things I closed which would normally open up automatically, but oh no I have to launch BF3 from my web browser.........SERIOUSLY....
  37. pragtastic
  38. pragtastic
    pragtastic Just spent the most frustrating 45 minutes of my life trying to play an online FPS. I seriously can't remember the last time I was this disappointed with a game purchase.
  39. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Something has gone wrong today, apparently. Played for a little over an hour and gave up when I had only PLAYED the game for 10 minutes. Constant time outs and game crashes, plus full screen bugs, hardware mouse screwups, authentication failures... I'm telling you, I saw it all.

    I turned off my PC in anger and went to read a book instead. So much effort for so little actual return.

    When this game works, it rules. The times that it works are so few and far between though, I'm getting really frustrated with it.
  40. Winfrey
    Winfrey Everyone who's purchased Battlefield 3 and has not had a satisfactory experience with it due to game bugs, server unreliability, and/or failings by Origin, has a perfectly legitimate right to complain.

    This thread sometimes feels like that tourette's guy episode where the kid says "aw I don't want total..." then tourette's guy says "DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT TOTAL!" repeated ad nauseum.
  41. Koreish
    Koreish Here's a question. Since the only way we're going to be able to play ME3 (on PC) is through Origin, will it interact nicely with our saved games on Steam? Or do you think EA will make us repurchase them through Origin or something similarly horrible?
  42. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm That is something I definitely will not abide, but I also cannot imagine they would be so uncompromisingly greedy to actually do. Not being able to import XBOX saves? Totally fine. If it can't take the Steam savegames and characters - which are just on a folder on the same hard drive on which ME3 will be installed - that will be seriously unbelievable. There is no way I will repurchase both ME1 and ME2 and all DLC and devote another 70-80 hours to replay them both with the same decisions I picked for my "perfect" playthroughs on Steam. It absolutely will not happen.

    But again, I can't fathom that they would force incompatibility. It's impossible for them to be so malicious or incompetent.

    Please don't prove me wrong, EA.
  43. pigflipper
    pigflipper A save game for the ME series is a save game; I bought ME1 at a store and ME2 through Steam and they played nice with no problem, I don't see ME3 having any issues with saved games.
  44. mertesn
    mertesn
    Koreish wrote:
    Here's a question. Since the only way we're going to be able to play ME3 (on PC) is through Origin, will it interact nicely with our saved games on Steam? Or do you think EA will make us repurchase them through Origin or something similarly horrible?
    I don't have a quotable source at the moment, but I do recall reading something about being able to import your existing EA game keys into Origin. I'd assume this would cover keys for games purchased through Steam.
  45. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS Store-bought BFBC2 was added to my Origin account without trouble off nothing but the CD Key, FWIW.
  46. Basil
    Basil Why would you need to repurchase?

    I added my Mass Effect 2 to Origin just by dropping the key in here.
  47. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS Because EA FUD.
  48. Canti
    Canti It refuses my Mass Effect 1 cd key.
  49. Basil
    Basil It doesn't seem to like Mass Effect (rejected mine too).
  50. Koreish
    Koreish This is why I was worried...
  51. NiGHTS
    NiGHTS I will bet you the free copy of the games they give you for your troubles in adding the CD-Keys for ME1 when you catch them on livechat.

    Try here: https://activate.ea.com/applyentitlement.do

    Anything pre-2009 used a different system that doesn't play well with Origin. They're well aware of the problem and have been very generous in compensating people for their troubles.
  52. Tushon
    Tushon
    NiGHTS wrote:
    They're well aware of the problem and have been very generous in compensating people for their troubles.

    img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=41130273

    I am imagining several faces contorted into that.
  53. seedism i hate dice now.

    I live rural and have pretty poor internet connection.
    never an issue before and always able to play online.

    Origin now needs one update after the other and if my connection breaks down for a fraction of time i lost the download and have to start all over again.

    Always been a happy customer of dice games but will throw it in the bin.

    Normally if a product is faulty or unuseable the customer can get cash back, not with games.

    I hate dice for doing this

    Dice bad

    Origin bad
  54. Tushon
    Tushon I think I've updated origin maybe 3 times in the last month, but that doesn't seem that odd. Steam self-updates quite frequently. Sucks that your internet breaks downloading a few MB package though :/
  55. Canti
    Canti So because your ISP is crappy and Origin is still buggy........you hate Dice.

    Makes total sense to me.
  56. pigflipper
    pigflipper Don't live in the boonies?
  57. seedism I hate Dice for choosing a service that does not allow people to plug in a 40 pound game, and let them play.
    I dont care who it is that allows a game to go on sale before tested enough.

    This new patcht is a 430 MB download, and for the fourth time it is stuck at 257-ish MB.
    (which takes about a day everytime)

    Now it tells me that the game is not installed properly....

    I understand that a large game is produced and released with bugs, cant produce a 100% product, but that is the norm.

    Everything has a warranty, if it is not working they could send me a new product.

    Dont forget that they make a lot of profit on us, a friggin lot.

    As a consumer I dont expect this, deffenitely dont apreciate it.

    They can try selling a game that works.

    Cant even play campaign mode without going to the origin server.

    Better of playing a game that works.

    Thanks Dice, EA, Origin or whomever. you already have my cash but no longer my support.

    Yes I am ranting, but only because I am frustrated, I love BF and have been buying every BF game available.

    Now I can only see one solution, try Modern Warfare to see if they f#@ked up or just let me play a game.

    Thanks
  58. seedism So, just thought that I was being a sad b@$t#rd so decided to stop crying and reinstall.

    After placing cd nr2 in the drive and another 20minutes of instalation, i get the message that they can not install the game untill I accept UAC prompt before installing.....

    But the message comes after instalation is almost complete.

    Still dont like this new system very much.

    But hey, no stress, this is how it is supposed to be, crap crap crap.

    Origin does not offer any function at this stage so I will have to uninstall 11 GB again.

    Wow, great, what a smooth experience here.

    poop
  59. seedism Uninstalled everything including origin.

    removed stupid UAC restriction that bill gates forced upon me and reinstalled origin.

    need update for origin...waiting.

    Done.

    Reinstall friggin battlefield.

    Nice...stuck at 99.54% and not willing to do anything else.

    You know i bought this game 14th november, played about 10 hours before origin decided to make life difficult.

    Just pressed install again, what a bunch of twats.

    I would not recommend any game through origin to my enemys, let alone my friends.
    What a waste of time.

    No longer spending money on dice, I am not ashamed to start downloading illegal copies of their games in the future, I have already spend 100's of pounds to their company in the past.

    I am the first person to stand behind game makers and always buy legal software because i want them to continue making great games.

    But next time i try before i buy.

    thanks dice, origin, ea and your twatting friends.
  60. seedism If origin says that installation is finished, and if I want to play the game.

    Does it matter that the download bar on the origin interface is at 28% and not ready.

    There is no info about that at all.

    Been trying to upload an screenshot, but am not a member here so I cant.

    Origin better get their act together before offering a service they can not provide.

    I look back to my old atari console, plug and play was such a great thing.

    i hate origin
  61. seedism So the game is reinstalled and i actually played for about 10 minutes.

    Now...

    disconnected from ea server.

    nice one, again not able to play bf3 at least an hour.

    Dice, origin,ea..wtf
  62. seedism Second time that bf3 stopped working in the middle of a session.

    After all the earlier comments i tried installing and updating all over again.

    Succesfull installation etc.

    10 min in game and fuck'n game stops again.

    Not going to excuse my language, it fucking shit.

    WTF ea, you fucking cunt.
  63. seedism battlefield 3 has stopped working, you lazy fuckin twat.
  64. Cyclonite
    Cyclonite Sound like ISP, computer,windows config...wtf.

    Up until getting disconnected from the server (which could still potentially be a cause of your self-proclaimed poor internet connection), none of that was Dice's or EA's fault.

    I'm not a fan of Origin in general - though I'll admit I've had very few problems with the service - but credit (or lack thereof) where it's due. None of your issues can be fully attributed to EA or Dice and the service/game they're providing. What you're complaining about is the equivalent of complaining that Dodge sucks because you forgot to remove the windshield sunshade before getting on the road, and then choosing a road with a giant impassable hole in the middle preventing you from completing your trip. Maybe Dodge does suck, but not for those reasons.
  65. seedism just spoke to EA, they said that it happens to thousands after the last 22nd november update.

    They are working on it, dont know when the next update will be ready though.

    I have poor internet connection, but have always been able to play battlefield bad company 2 on the highest settins, so connection aint that bad.

    It is only BF3 that has issues.

    Dice made a great game, but if i am not able to play it who's fault is it?

    The man who builds it, the wholesaler or the shop owner...

    No matter who is responsible, I have a game that does not want to play ball.
  66. pigflipper
    pigflipper Seems that UK/European customers are having a much more difficult time with Origin and BattleLog than US customers.
  67. seedism it is not working correctly over here, still getting ea server issues.

    At least this thread starts showing in Googles 1st page search, letting people know better to avoid any EA - origin game.

    EA told me that I could try to return the game to the shop to get store credit for another game.

    Great
  68. seedism Still not working EA, you turned over 3.8 billion dollars in your fiscal year ending march 2011.

    But your products are not as good as you make us believe.

    Battlefield 3 is not working for me and thousands others.

    Get your friggin act together or give me my money back.

    battlefield 3 not working, game freezes all the time and battlefield stoped working.
  69. Tushon
    Tushon
    Cyclonite wrote:
    Sound like ISP, computer,windows config...wtf.

    None of your issues can be fully attributed to EA or Dice and the service/game they're providing. What you're complaining about is the equivalent of complaining that Dodge sucks because you forgot to remove the windshield sunshade before getting on the road, and then choosing a road with a giant impassable hole in the middle preventing you from completing your trip. Maybe Dodge does suck, but not for those reasons.
  70. seedism So battlefield still does not want to play, you guys are all twats for your comments, you do not read my comments and reply with your bs.

    FUCK EA, DICE
  71. pragtastic
  72. Tushon
    Tushon
    So battlefield still does not want to play, you guys are all twats for your comments, you do not read my comments and reply with your bs.

    FUCK EA, DICE
    Well, we provided some possible causes and you already stated there were issues with that cause. Second, we are not EA or DICE, or anyone else involved in that process and this entire thread was bitching about Origin, so I don't know if you missed the boat or what. If you have technical issues, you should be checking software (repair install BF3, remove, driver sweeper and update your video, sound, (hell throw networking in there too) drivers, and try it again. There is no use in crying and blaming random people on the internet. That won't get you help
  73. pigflipper
    pigflipper

    Well, we provided some possible causes and you already stated there were issues with that cause. Second, we are not EA or DICE, or anyone else involved in that process and this entire thread was bitching about Origin, so I don't know if you missed the boat or what. If you have technical issues, you should be checking software (repair install BF3, remove, driver sweeper and update your video, sound, (hell throw networking in there too) drivers, and try it again. There is no use in crying and blaming random people on the internet. That won't get you help
    Its obviously our fault because we are really the secret programmers behind all of EA and DICE's products and he found us out.
  74. Canti
    Canti After a 2 month gap between comments you come back with this?

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  75. Tushon
    Tushon
    Its obviously our fault because we are really the secret programmers behind all of EA and DICE's products and he found us out.
    Shit, don't tell my boss. He'll make me go put out some monitors instead.

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